Ken Burns

In the depression in many American cities, the animals in the zoo were shot and the meat distributed to the poor.

When that happens, I'll say- That's a depression.

Yeah.

That's a depression.

And so right now, I don't want to minimize whatever pain he was personally going through or professionally going through, but I do think having perspective is a really important thing.

And history is the best teacher there is for giving you a kind of perspective.

You're right.

You're right.

You're right.

I mean, my feeling is, and I do this with every film.

Mark Twain once said, if you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.

So I said the same thing in the year of promotion of this thing last year.

To Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn, as I said, to the New York Times editorial board, as I said, to inner city school kids in Charleston and Detroit and suburban kids in Chicago and the 40 cities we went to and the 80 different screenings and the 6 million podcasts I felt like I did and all the other interviews.

And because I was trying to reach everybody.

This is a story for everybody.

And the problem is that right now we've gotten to a place where we want to limit everything.

You have to pass a litmus test.

You have to sign a loyalty oath, an NDA to your real feelings.

And I want to speak to everyone.

So I assumed if I could just get to October before the mid-November broadcast, I'd be okay.