Ken Burns

We've done some stuff on housing.

I was the executive producer.

My daughter, Sarah, who's one of our

Maine directors and her husband, David McMahon, have have have done things on public housing.

I think the Obama one will be fully.

I mean, I my first question to him is, of course, where were you born?

But, you know, you should see the way I said it.

You mean Madras in Pakistan or Indonesia or something?

Yeah, exactly.

So The Law Cabin is to your point.

Yeah, it's a pretty great story.

I've dealt with race, Chuck, 40 plus films that have been out.

I can count on the fingers of one hand.

I can use the fingers of one hand and still have enough time to snap my fingers.

And I've gotten a lot of criticism over the years about it from people, from critics, from even historians, friends, other colleagues.

And

And they said, when are you going to stop?

And when Barack Obama was inaugurated on December 20th, 2009, they said, now are you going to stop?

And I held up the Onion magazine and it said, black man given worst job in nation.

And I just said, watch what happens.