Ken Burns

Nobody can tell you what it isn't.

Nobody can tell you what it is.

It's always complex.

That's the nature of human beings.

And we should be...

It's reveling in that complexity.

Let me give you one slight example.

The bell cow of the conservative movement at this time is the television series Yellowstone, right?

This is finally they've made liberal Hollywood made a story for us, right?

And what is at the heart of that story?

A patriarch, right?

who is the George Washington of the series, who also kills people who piss him off, just as his father and grandfather have done, dumping their bodies wherever they went.

He's got a daughter cut from his same cloth, as ruthless as he is.

He's got two sons.

One is tortured by the relationship to the land and the Native American story that has been superimposed without any questions over that.

And he's married a Native American woman, right?

The other son is Benedict Arnold, right?

Right.

And then the daughter is in love with the chief foreman of this thing, who's in charge of a group of ranchers who are young and old, white and black, gay and straight.

And over and surrounding them is this larger Native American issue.