Ken Coleman

Well, that's a very interesting question from someone who at one point was pretty far down the path. Were you budgeting back then?

Right. And the reason I did that question is because Jade's going to jump in. She's the budgeting queen here. But the reason I asked that question is because it seemed a bit odd the way you presented it. And now I'm starting to understand a little bit more. It's not the actual dotting the I's, crossing the T's of a budget. It sounds like you're just emotionally exhausted.

Right. And the reason I did that question is because Jade's going to jump in. She's the budgeting queen here. But the reason I asked that question is because it seemed a bit odd the way you presented it. And now I'm starting to understand a little bit more. It's not the actual dotting the I's, crossing the T's of a budget. It sounds like you're just emotionally exhausted.

Right. And the reason I did that question is because Jade's going to jump in. She's the budgeting queen here. But the reason I asked that question is because it seemed a bit odd the way you presented it. And now I'm starting to understand a little bit more. It's not the actual dotting the I's, crossing the T's of a budget. It sounds like you're just emotionally exhausted.

How can we help with that? What's going on there? The idea of budgeting just seems like, is it that you don't feel like you've got enough? Are you paycheck to paycheck and it feels like the last thing you want to do is try to get in this mess because you've just been holding on so tight? I just think there's something going on here that's not actually how to use a budget.

How can we help with that? What's going on there? The idea of budgeting just seems like, is it that you don't feel like you've got enough? Are you paycheck to paycheck and it feels like the last thing you want to do is try to get in this mess because you've just been holding on so tight? I just think there's something going on here that's not actually how to use a budget.

How can we help with that? What's going on there? The idea of budgeting just seems like, is it that you don't feel like you've got enough? Are you paycheck to paycheck and it feels like the last thing you want to do is try to get in this mess because you've just been holding on so tight? I just think there's something going on here that's not actually how to use a budget.

Yeah. Okay, I think that's good. So, Jade, knowing that, hearing that, because you coach people, what do you think? I don't think this is as much tactical. How does she get back into it? What would you tell her to do?

Yeah. Okay, I think that's good. So, Jade, knowing that, hearing that, because you coach people, what do you think? I don't think this is as much tactical. How does she get back into it? What would you tell her to do?

Yeah. Okay, I think that's good. So, Jade, knowing that, hearing that, because you coach people, what do you think? I don't think this is as much tactical. How does she get back into it? What would you tell her to do?

Here's what I'm hearing. I could be wrong. Sorry to jump in. That's okay. Go ahead. But I keep, I think we keep coming back to this point. And the only analogy I can come up with right now is, Catherine, it feels like you know how to exercise and eat right. But you just, when it comes time to hit the gym or to walk properly,

Here's what I'm hearing. I could be wrong. Sorry to jump in. That's okay. Go ahead. But I keep, I think we keep coming back to this point. And the only analogy I can come up with right now is, Catherine, it feels like you know how to exercise and eat right. But you just, when it comes time to hit the gym or to walk properly,

Here's what I'm hearing. I could be wrong. Sorry to jump in. That's okay. Go ahead. But I keep, I think we keep coming back to this point. And the only analogy I can come up with right now is, Catherine, it feels like you know how to exercise and eat right. But you just, when it comes time to hit the gym or to walk properly,

or to eat the really good meal, you just go, oh, I just really want the chips and queso instead. It keeps coming back to that. And there's the giggle of confirmation. So that's what I think is going on. She knows she said it twice. I know what to do.

or to eat the really good meal, you just go, oh, I just really want the chips and queso instead. It keeps coming back to that. And there's the giggle of confirmation. So that's what I think is going on. She knows she said it twice. I know what to do.

or to eat the really good meal, you just go, oh, I just really want the chips and queso instead. It keeps coming back to that. And there's the giggle of confirmation. So that's what I think is going on. She knows she said it twice. I know what to do.

But when it comes time to sit, when the first check comes, when the first of the month comes in, getting back into that and having to make hard choices, because when I decide not to eat chips and queso at 10 o'clock at night, the last meals before seven or I got to go to the gym, I'm giving up something else. I'm having to do something that initially is not fun to do. That's right.

But when it comes time to sit, when the first check comes, when the first of the month comes in, getting back into that and having to make hard choices, because when I decide not to eat chips and queso at 10 o'clock at night, the last meals before seven or I got to go to the gym, I'm giving up something else. I'm having to do something that initially is not fun to do. That's right.

But when it comes time to sit, when the first check comes, when the first of the month comes in, getting back into that and having to make hard choices, because when I decide not to eat chips and queso at 10 o'clock at night, the last meals before seven or I got to go to the gym, I'm giving up something else. I'm having to do something that initially is not fun to do. That's right.

It's kind of yuck.