Ken Goldberg
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first heard Jan 2025
last heard 7 May
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That means that there's a human moving them around, essentially remote controlling them. Or if you watch what their hands are doing, they're very primitive. Now there's a lot of work trying to address that.
So it's a great question because it just came up yesterday at USC because people were talking about there's not so much funding available from the government agencies, DARPA and others that used to fund a lot of this research because it was more esoteric. Now they're saying, well, the companies are doing it. and yet it's not necessarily being shared, so it's closed and complicated.
But fortunately, a lot of the companies are pretty open. Google and NVIDIA and many others are actually publishing their results. We work with them. They work with us. And so robotics is surprisingly open. The minute they get a result, they publish it, and we all see it. You see it on Twitter or Archive or this other thing. But so there's a lot of communication.
And by the way, all this tension between China and the U.S., it's really interesting it doesn't exist in academia. Yeah. We are freely exchanging information. Students are coming from China. Just came from a conference. Half the papers were from China. It's a free open exchange.
China's not going to, yeah.
A lot of it is open now. Facebook or Meta has actually been quite exemplary in that they share all the models. They're doing their AI as open source, right?
Really wonderful. And actually, we use it all the time, those tools, and it's very, very helpful. And then others like OpenAI, we use the tool, but we don't actually get access to the source code. So we don't know how it's doing it right behind the scenes. But they let us access it and use it, which is doing some incredible things.
But that idea of, I guess your question is about government versus private sector.
And not only that, but that individual also has a lot of power in terms of let's say Twitter and X. Media.
And seems to know how to use it very effectively. So I think it's a concern. Coming back to the fear, the reason roboticists, and I'm not the only one, almost all of us are not fearful that robots are going to take over. And also that they're going to eliminate humans because it's just not that sophisticated by a long shot. And certainly the other fear is about jobs.
And I don't see them taking over jobs and putting people out of work because all the jobs that require manual labor are extremely difficult to automate.
A huge amount of those jobs cannot be replaced.
Like mechanics are so complex where they can reach around things and feel they can take off screws. Bell housing on a trans. You can't see anything. So that's the kind of thing way beyond robots. And I think that there's a shortage of workers. The trades, because we're aging and we need more people to be doing all these jobs, they're not going to be unemployed.
In fact, it's probably most job security. People are realizing that they're actually in demand, which is great. They're actually getting higher wages.
Well, I have a theory about this. I think some of the most vocal doomsayers who are saying we're on the verge of these things taking over. It was very telling. The person who just won the Nobel Prize, Jeff Hinton, he said, we have never encountered anything more intelligent than ourselves. That was his big line. And I read that and I thought,
Wait, I encounter something more intelligent than myself every day. I mean, there's tons of people around that are more intelligent than me. I'm not afraid of them. They don't freak me out.
We love that. We weren't scared. Right. Exactly. And so most of us aren't afraid of something more intelligent than us. But there's a small group, and I think they think they're the most intelligent.
We're constantly bumping into people smarter than us and it's fun.
It's great. And actually, I think this is something about AI is that it actually can be this interesting partner for us and can enhance our world and our abilities. Well, like this thing I was talking to you guys about. You sent us. Notebook LM. Is that what it's called?
But it has a rhythm that is very much like you two.
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