Ken Harbaugh

It's just a question of how much pain we have to endure to get there.

How much violence will there be between now and then?

And I...

Hope every day that democracy holds and the institutions hold and we have the blue wave in November and free and fair elections in 2028.

Because the day will come when Trump's name is torn off the JFK Center in D.C., when the currency that has his face emblazoned on it is melted down or burned off.

when the ballroom has his name ripped off or is itself torn down.

And that is going to be a very visible repudiation of everything his tenure represented.

And it's going to be a catharsis for this country, but we have a lot to go through before we get to that.

Yeah.

Well, this is part of a pattern, and you see it across the government.

There was a really alarming moment in the hours, and in a few cases, minutes before the first bombs fell on Iran, when these polymarket bets were placed clearly by people with inside information, close to the decision, so close to the president, who knew that we were about to attack Iran.

And

they literally made a killing on the opening phase of the war you see just how

The Trump family is now in the defense business with the sons owning drone companies.

And it's just gross.

It's the kind of thing Eisenhower warned about with the defense industrial complex, but it's now personalized.

It is now not just this –

this sort of abstract Leviathan with its tentacles and every aspect of American industry, it is tied to the Oval Office and the president and the decision-making about when and how America goes to war.

And that's new.

I'm not sure even Eisenhower