Ken Harbaugh

You have to see it to believe it.

disassociation in the minds of the Russian civilians.

There is a real attempt, and I'm not an expert on this.

I haven't studied it as much as I have the battlefield itself, but you get the feeling like there is a real concerted effort to try to make the war in Ukraine seem like it's very far away, like it's very distant, and the Russian government itself is determined to

insulate and isolate its people from the horrors of what is happening at the front.

It's the reason that their Rubicon is a general draft.

They're trying not to reach that point because then it would be undeniable.

But I haven't been to Moscow, but the reports I hear from people who go to Moscow say it is kind of a fantasy land.

It's Russia's Disney World, and they make every possible attempt to insulate their people from what is actually happening at the war.

So I'm sure that information is available, but I think people are just tuning it out.

what's happening in ukraine it's a great great question and if i had to boil it down to a single lesson it would be humility let's accept that we don't know everything just because we have the most expensive military in the world doesn't mean we have the most adaptable or the best military in the world the ukrainians are a drone superpower today and they have been begging for the opportunity to teach us what they know and i think

Largely because of hubris, we have said no.

And you think about the first mass casualty event on the American side in this war of choice with Iran.

It was inflicted by an Iranian Shahed drone that the Ukrainians have perfected in taking down over the last decade.

many years.

It was a Shahed, a $20,000 drone that got past every one of our air defenses and hit a base in Kuwait that had no overhead protection and killed six Americans.

A $20,000 drone that the Ukrainians have been trying to tell us how to take out of the sky.

Our approach to shooting down Shaheds, which

are cheap a few tens of thousands of dollars there are fifty thousand dollar variants that's still not very expensive when we're shooting them down with multi-million dollar interceptors and sometimes it takes two or three interceptors to take down one of these twenty thousand dollar shahad drones so even if we do knock it out of the sky the iranians can call it a win they don't even have to they don't even have to get their shahads to the target if they're soaking up million dollar interceptors every time they launch one

It is on balance.