Ken Hinkley

It's usually about not having won enough and not performing at the level.

So most clubs are in the same situation when you get a new coach.

When I took over at Port Adelaide, it was off the back of a five-win season.

So that's when it happens and that's when it goes.

So your club's not necessarily in a great, healthy position

when the new person comes in.

So you get a bit of time, you know, that honeymoon period we all talk about.

Stephen King at the moment has done an outstanding job with Melbourne in his first year.

Somewhat, we spoke about this last week, somewhat my first year worked out pretty well.

So, you know, there's always those opportunities, but it's a big, big job and it's a big course to sail back through to get Essendon or Carlton or any of those clubs who are at the, you know, in the rebuild phase to get right back through to the top of the ladder.

I think Brad knew exactly where, you know, what course, clearly the course he'd chosen for the club and the club had chosen with him.

It wasn't just Brad.

It was the club who'd chosen the course.

So, you know, and I don't know that there's any other way back.

You know, what's the other way back?

Because if you're that far down, Gerard, you have to bring in

almost a complete list, not just some parts of the list.

So you've got to go back to the draft and that's your starting point.

Look at Adelaide currently.

I mean, they went back to the draft, I think, in 2019 maybe when they first started on this rebuild phase.