Ken Hinkley

I think it was untidy at the end of last year, let's be pretty clear.

There wasn't a lot of hope, I think, for people who sat outside of Carlton that Michael would make it through to the end of this year and get renewed.

Anyhow, almost before the season started, I thought, when the way it was playing out with Charlie Kernow leaving and a couple of other things going down.

So you go, well...

It was a challenging task for Michael to take on and, you know, we're not surprised we land here today.

But as I said, you know, a few weeks back, Michael needs to ask the question and he had to ask the question, you know.

And I wrote down, Vossie called it, the club done it.

That's exactly how it played out.

Michael said, no, this is going nowhere.

And the club said, yeah, we agree.

And it's time for us to part ways.

And I think both parties, this is the first time I've viewed it from the outside, as you said, I think both parties handled it pretty well with as good as they can.

You've got to try and explain a performance and a sacking of a coach.

It's not going to be easy at any time, I don't think.

It's just more around the reality is we're not where we want to be

We need to make change.

What other options do we have?

They've changed the CEO.

They've changed the football manager.

They've now changed list and recruiting manager.