Ken Klippenstein

Now, historically, they focused on foreign terrorist organizations like Al Qaeda and ISIS, groups for which you could at least make an argument that it makes sense to have this kind of an aggressive approach.

But in the case of the Trump administration,

They are convinced, and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said this weekend, she said she thinks that Antifa poses the same kind of threat and is just as, quote, dangerous as those foreign terrorist organizations that I was just describing, despite the fact that it's not even clear it exists as an organized entity.

And that's not my judgment.

That is the judgment of Trump's first choice for FBI Director Christopher Wray, whom he appointed in 2017.

um so they're bringing this huge counterterrorism apparatus this post 9 11 monolith and dropping the hammer on this group which isn't clear that it exists and it is not just trump it is his administration officials as well he has the senior director for counterterrorism sebastian gorka who's also constantly saying things along these lines you just quoted stephen miller they're not particularly quiet about any of this i think that part of the reason that it hasn't gotten the attention

that it deserves is because it just sounds so crazy that I think people think that either you're being hyperbolic, even though all of this is quoted directly from that memorandum.

I'm not editorializing here.

This is all in government records that you can go online and find.

I think that is part of the reason that it hasn't got the attention.

Another part is so much of it is happening in secret, the watch listing authority that we described not being one that goes out and says, hey, here's who we're looking at, but you get clues.

FBI Director Kash Patel in testimony to Congress several weeks ago said that there is a 300% increase in domestic terrorism cases.

That is a huge increase.

And so what it is that constitutes that, we don't know because he hasn't said.

Senator Alyssa Slotkin, she's on the Armed Services Committee in the Senate, she had some good questions about this where she asked the Trump administration nominee,

for Pentagon Senior Counsel, she said, hey, this list that you have, not just for foreign terrorist organizations, but domestic groups too, this is all happening in secret.

Are you going to tell us about it?

He basically didn't answer.

But we are just getting one sign after another that this is happening.

It's not just the memorandum.