Ken Martin

It's important for us to actually build power for our party, and our party values everywhere there's Democrats, and we're going to continue to do that.

Whether you think that's a worthwhile investment or not, that's fine.

You can take your check back if you don't believe it's a good investment, John.

But let me just say this.

The role of the Democratic Party is to build infrastructure everywhere so that we can win.

Let me give you a couple of examples of what that infrastructure is.

Our voter file.

and our organizing tools and our data, every candidate, whether they're running for school board or president, relies on that.

We spend over $10 million a year on that, John.

That's a critical piece of the infrastructure that people rely on.

Without the DNC, they would have to do that on their own, all of these candidates.

Our voter protection and legal infrastructure that we build

Every committee and every candidate relies on us to be out there filing lawsuits and protecting the vote.

We filed over a thousand lawsuits, which is a record number of lawsuits over the last year alone, right?

Including being lead plaintiffs in many of the big lawsuits challenging Trump's executive orders.

This is a piece of the infrastructure people rely on.

No.

That didn't happen?

No, you're talking about buying a fundraising list, but that's not a voter file.

The fundraising list?