Ken Martin

And I'm happy to go over what those lessons are.

I'm happy to go over them with anyone who wants to talk about them, John.

But what I'm not going to do is release a report that turns everyone backwards trying to either

point fingers or place blame and actually ignore their own responsibility in helping us to fix the situation.

The reality is, is, you know, we all have a responsibility, yourself, myself, everyone, in actually learning those lessons, focusing on the upcoming election, putting them into action so we don't repeat those same mistakes.

That's what we've been focused on, John.

That's just inaccurate, John.

And I'm sure you follow the campaign finance reports like I do.

We raised one hundred and five million dollars in 2025, a record amount of money for the first year.

We also we do have debt, John.

And that's because I took out a loan last year to make sure we can make deep investments.

You know what we've been doing, John?

We've raised a record amount of money, $105 million.

It's the most raised for the first year chair of any DNC chair in the history of this party.

And you know what's great about it?

We raised in 2017, which is an analogous year, a year right after a presidential loss, Tom Perez raised $40 million less than what we raised this year.

He didn't have the debt that you're

Yes, he did.

He had $76 million in debt.

And so my point to you is this, John, okay?