Ken Martin

We have been sharing those things out.

Happy to get you over what we have been sharing out, John.

The reality is, is that there's no smoking gun here.

And as much as people would like to keep focusing in on those pieces, what they're ignoring is that we're sharing out the lessons.

We have been incorporating those and we have actually been putting those lessons into action, which I'm most proud of.

Look, we're we're 189 days away from this election.

You said on the top end of this that you what you care most about is helping us to win elections.

OK, let's focus on the elections coming up, John.

I've spent my entire career, John, as you know, since 1990, winning elections up and down the ballot, both in Minnesota and across the country.

I appreciate that.

And I'm happy to talk to you about winning elections.

If you want to actually talk about elections, I'm happy to talk to you about those.

But again, you're proving the point that I think many folks, I think, are frustrated in this party, which is people want to turn backwards to re-litigate the 2024 election, to point fingers, to place blame, to- I think you want to learn lessons, like you said.

Well, listen, to win elections, if they want to win elections, I'm happy to share what we learned in the way of the lessons on why we lost the 24 election and the years preceding that.

Happy to share those.

We're sharing those out with everyone.

But again, this conversation doesn't help us actually win elections.

All it does is continue to turn people inward.

What we need to do is focus on the work we need to do in 189 days.

Learn the lessons.