Ken Martin

The person and people who were involved in it were not paid to do this work.

And so I will just say that's that's inaccurate, John.

So I appreciate I'm not sure where you would even get that number.

And so did you have some some sort of record that shows we spent any money on that?

The person who has to do this is an unpaid advisor to the DNC.

Listen, I appreciate where it's coming from, John, but let's just trade in facts on this.

The reality is, as we did talk to hundreds of people, it was an exhaustive exercise to really get at what are those key lessons.

And I want to be very clear, there's nothing that changed from what I said on the campaign trail to now.

No, what I said at the time is exactly what I've been saying now, which is we have to focus on the things that help us win the future elections.

We have to focus on those lessons.

We have to do this exercise, by the way, of conducting this analysis so that we actually learn what happened.

Not just in 24, but in the years preceding that, John.

And so that's where our focus is.

I mean, you know, the challenge is, you know, think about this as an executive summary of, you know, like you said, a 200-page document.

And I think what we've put together and what we learned, we are sharing with people.

So they have full insight into what we actually need to course correct on as we go into these final 189 days left and into the future.

So again...

We've been releasing that, John.

That's what I've been saying to you.

The reality is, is we're not hiding the ball on this.