Ken Martin

There's a number of lessons for sure that will help us win in 26 and beyond.

But again, I understand what you're saying, John.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this because we have already started to put those lessons into action.

I'm proud of the results of

What we've seen over the last year and a half since I've been elected, we have significant wind at our back, and we're going to continue to move forward.

And we're going to continue to put those lessons we've learned into action, and I hope others will start to do the same.

John, you're proving the point.

What's the point?

The point is the obsession on the report without actually focusing in on the lessons.

People believe there's something, there's some sort of magic silver bullet in there that's going to solve all of our ills at the Democratic Party.

There's not.

And I understand.

I don't think I don't think there's going to be a magic silver bullet, though.

I think people are probably wondering like on it.

We don't spend a lot of donor money on that.

And that's just inaccurate.

You spent a couple hundred thousand dollars on it, right?

No, we did not.

It was a free report.

We did not spend a couple hundred thousand dollars on that.