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Ken White

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
37 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

Okay, Elie Mestel, strong beginning.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

Ken, what do you think?

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

Well, I don't know what absolutist Elie is talking about.

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More Perfect: The Hate Debate

The last one I know is Hugo Black, and he died in 1971.

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More Perfect: The Hate Debate

We have well-established narrow exceptions to the First Amendment, and they are narrow for a reason.

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More Perfect: The Hate Debate

We got them narrowed on the backs of the powerless being suppressed by the powerful.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

All of the types of restrictions that Elie would like are ones that have historically been used against communists, against labor protesters, against war protesters, against minorities, and everyone else.

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More Perfect: The Hate Debate

The Nazis aren't the ones in danger from the types of restrictions that Elie is suggesting he'd like.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

I don't want the government deciding what's a lie and what's true.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

May I remind you we are currently led by a president who thinks that global warming is a Chinese hoax to corner the tungsten market.

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More Perfect: The Hate Debate

And that's why I don't want the government deciding what to suppress based on its decision about what is true or not.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

Now...

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

Ellie refers to the fire in the crowded theater, just as Holmes' famous quote.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

Let's remember what he was talking about.

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More Perfect: The Hate Debate

He was using that quote, you can't shout fire in a crowded theater, to justify jailing a man who was protesting World War II by handing out flyers suggesting that people resist the draft.

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More Perfect: The Hate Debate

That was the clear danger that the government saw.

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More Perfect: The Hate Debate

Now, if you don't think

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

that it's plausible that the government would be suppressing the same type of speech now if you gave it the power, if you handed it to them out of fear of Nazis, then just look at what happened after the protests this last year.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

The alt-right and neo-Nazis rose, there were massive protests in response, and our largely Republican-dominated state legislatures leaped into action, and in 17 places,

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More Perfect: The Hate Debate

They proposed heavily punitive anti-protest bills, including four charming examples, making it easier for you to get off if you run over a protester in your car.

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