Ken

And, you know, you look back at some of the things you do and you just go, man, you know, what kind of animal was I turned into?

You know, I mean, there's a man dying in front of his family, you know, and I always wonder, I hope he lived.

But, you know, and so I get back to my cell.

And I remember Jose, and I'd lost my, again, you know, I had a lot of loss in my life.

My grandfather died and my mother, my grandmother, you know, friends.

And I remember one time me and Jose, right around the same time, we were sitting there with our arms through the bars.

You know how you do that?

You know, and he says, hey, Florida.

I go, what?

He goes, people die every day.

And I don't remember the chronological events of this.

Right.

But I know that that advice has helped me a lot through life to just realize that we're finite.

Right.

You know, the clock only ticks one way.

But it was pretty poignant there, you know.

So, anyhow, I bond out.

We go back and forth to trial.

We stall about two, you know.

The thing about a drug case is you want to stall as long as possible, right?