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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

It fails.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

You know, there's...

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

It turns out there's no organization in organized crime.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

Right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

We were worried about it, but no.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

One time we had my friend's sister driving.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

She blew a driveshaft.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

The cops came up to see what was the matter.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

She told them they helped her tow it to a shop where she had a driveshaft put in.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

Um, I had another friend of mine, dude, Bob, who's dude, Bob's in the book and, uh, he's still working today in the, in out in Oregon though, in the legal market, but he got pulled over twice and he used to drive a Volvo, like a two 40 Volvo grateful dead t-shirt hippie with a grateful dead sticker on the back.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

And both times he, he talked his way out of it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

You know, like if it was me, I go, wait a second.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

What's, you know, where's this guy headed?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

I got pulled over and got busted.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

I don't know how everybody else got away with it, but, you know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

So, anyhow, that's how it kind of started, just moving the weed, and then... How long did that go on?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

Well, so when I got busted, I got busted in 88 for... But this is still, we're still in the late 70s now, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

Yes, late 70s, early 80s.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

So when I got indicted in Ohio, they called it a 12-year ongoing criminal enterprise.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Kingpin Flips on the Feds | How Crime Actually Works

So I got finally busted for the last time in 92, and...