Ken

But it was pretty funny because my lawyers go, listen, while you're testifying, there might be a tour group come through because this is also...

you know, the oldest, this is where they hung the witches, you know, this is where.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So he goes, you might find I'm testifying going, you know, there's a tour group going, there was.

I was like, shit.

So that was one case, but it was kind of funny because he spent his time.

When he got back to work, they said, man, you look horrible.

What happened?

Do you have no tan?

You've lost weight?

That was the vacation.

and and it was a hellhole it was built in the 1860s they had no air conditioning they didn't you didn't have uniforms you had to have your own clothes and somebody had to come wash your clothes and bring them back it was not like you know federal prison or even state prison like you would think it's funny you talk to these guys that were locked up in like the 70s and 80s like they had they had money yeah they had cash on them they had you know they're smoking cigarettes they have cash they have their own clothes they have

Cigarettes, right.

Like in the movies, there's no cigarettes.

Yeah, there's no cigarettes.

They're all non-smoking.

You get to trade two sides for a main kind of thing.

We used to be able to trade candy, stamps, envelopes, food.

But, you know, there's no cigarettes.

So I beat the case in 88.