Kenji Yoshino
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I just happen to be an incredibly obnoxious person. And you told me that you valued authenticity in the workplace. And so this is what you get. I would offer to you that that is covering that you're requiring of me, but that a world in which I win that argument with you is a world in which none of us want to live. So that means that there are some forms of covering that are
I just happen to be an incredibly obnoxious person. And you told me that you valued authenticity in the workplace. And so this is what you get. I would offer to you that that is covering that you're requiring of me, but that a world in which I win that argument with you is a world in which none of us want to live. So that means that there are some forms of covering that are
at least neutral, but potentially even positive or even essential to the smooth functioning of a workplace or of a community. And that in turn pushes me to the harder question of, okay, if there are good forms of covering and bad forms of covering, how do we distinguish between the good and bad forms? And to me, it's really about societal values.
at least neutral, but potentially even positive or even essential to the smooth functioning of a workplace or of a community. And that in turn pushes me to the harder question of, okay, if there are good forms of covering and bad forms of covering, how do we distinguish between the good and bad forms? And to me, it's really about societal values.
at least neutral, but potentially even positive or even essential to the smooth functioning of a workplace or of a community. And that in turn pushes me to the harder question of, okay, if there are good forms of covering and bad forms of covering, how do we distinguish between the good and bad forms? And to me, it's really about societal values.
That's my answer of how we distinguish between the good and the bad forms. Because If you actually say to somebody, yes, you have to downplay your obnoxious personality. And I say, well, that's an impingement on my authenticity. You have a really good answer to that, right? Which is to say that we ask everybody to adhere to those norms.
That's my answer of how we distinguish between the good and the bad forms. Because If you actually say to somebody, yes, you have to downplay your obnoxious personality. And I say, well, that's an impingement on my authenticity. You have a really good answer to that, right? Which is to say that we ask everybody to adhere to those norms.
That's my answer of how we distinguish between the good and the bad forms. Because If you actually say to somebody, yes, you have to downplay your obnoxious personality. And I say, well, that's an impingement on my authenticity. You have a really good answer to that, right? Which is to say that we ask everybody to adhere to those norms.
And we understand that that might harm some people in their self-presentation more than others. But this is a tax that we're willing to exact in the name of the community because we think this is an utterly defensible value.
And we understand that that might harm some people in their self-presentation more than others. But this is a tax that we're willing to exact in the name of the community because we think this is an utterly defensible value.
And we understand that that might harm some people in their self-presentation more than others. But this is a tax that we're willing to exact in the name of the community because we think this is an utterly defensible value.
On the other hand, if you said to me, well, you know, we believe in the inclusion of women in the workplace, but to go back to the earlier example, if you want to get a promotion, stop talking about your kids.
On the other hand, if you said to me, well, you know, we believe in the inclusion of women in the workplace, but to go back to the earlier example, if you want to get a promotion, stop talking about your kids.
On the other hand, if you said to me, well, you know, we believe in the inclusion of women in the workplace, but to go back to the earlier example, if you want to get a promotion, stop talking about your kids.
If you say that to a woman and you wouldn't say that to a man, then that's a covering demand that I would have a problem with because there the covering demand is not backed by a community value. And that's the inconsistency I want to challenge.
If you say that to a woman and you wouldn't say that to a man, then that's a covering demand that I would have a problem with because there the covering demand is not backed by a community value. And that's the inconsistency I want to challenge.
If you say that to a woman and you wouldn't say that to a man, then that's a covering demand that I would have a problem with because there the covering demand is not backed by a community value. And that's the inconsistency I want to challenge.
The New York Times article was a profile on me and my work on covering, and it was a very positive piece that might, in other circumstances, have been a cause for celebration. But the article explicitly talked about the fact that I was an openly gay man, with my permission, you know, of course.
The New York Times article was a profile on me and my work on covering, and it was a very positive piece that might, in other circumstances, have been a cause for celebration. But the article explicitly talked about the fact that I was an openly gay man, with my permission, you know, of course.
The New York Times article was a profile on me and my work on covering, and it was a very positive piece that might, in other circumstances, have been a cause for celebration. But the article explicitly talked about the fact that I was an openly gay man, with my permission, you know, of course.