Kenneth R. Rosen

Okay.

That's how removed we were from the rest of the country and the world.

My center of the universe was altered forever.

So I always felt this pull to go back to the Arctic.

And when I had the chance to, I took it.

But you- Well, Alastair, you're crazy, okay?

So that's different than being obsessed.

I don't know if you want to game out a scenario right now, but the first time I landed in Svalbard, that archipelago, 800 miles north of mainland Norway, controlled by Norway.

Security apparatus too, right?

I mean, it's also part of NATO And when I landed there, I felt first that I was in a community like immediately I felt like I have I seen that person before or I know that person Do they know me why you know, it felt very communal and very in sync with who I was originally So I felt right at home and you notice now, you know the beanie and the and the the the hooded sweatshirt So that's just who I am

And I realized that there was this disparate community with only 2,000 people and then some Russians in a community nearby.

It's a demilitarized zone.

It's a visa-free zone, so anyone can go there.

It's got a major satellite relay that ostensibly isn't supposed to be used for military communications, but we learned otherwise.

And if I was Russia or China and I wanted to test the strength of NATO,

Why not invade this place?

There's no one here.

Put some people here, see what happens, right?

And then to gauge whether or not it would trigger Article 5, whether or not an attack against one wouldn't trigger an attack from all.

Because is the strength of NATO that prevalent?