Kenneth

How?

Oh, I mean, it was one of the big issues for President Trump and the Republicans in getting elected in 2024.

Well, I want to be a little more optimistic about it.

I mean, I have to say I've come from a very liberal university, and different people have different views on this, and there's some balance.

And I think the Democrats push too hard in one direction, and they're paying for it.

These are fantastic issues for the Republicans, because I think a lot of people feel the Democrats went much further than you see in other countries on a lot of these issues.

They have a lot less immigration in Europe, and they're so angry about it.

It's the biggest issue there.

I believe in legal immigration, by the way.

I think that's really important.

We should have more of it.

Yeah, I mean, I think that's being lost in this debate, that we need more of that.

But yeah, I don't have a simple answer to this.

Well, I don't know if this is going through their heads when they're looking at it.

I really don't.

But certainly until recently, the view was if you got in, you were eventually going to be made a citizen.

The U.S.

would always have an amnesty every once in a while, and you got to be a citizen, and everybody thought that.

Dream act.

Yeah.