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Kevin Geist

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
43 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

regarding where she was or what time or how this worked.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

And the defense claims that she was just trying to be helpful.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

And the more she thought about it, the more details that came to light.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

But of course, from a prosecution standpoint, you're looking at these as inconsistencies.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

Yeah.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

So throughout the entire trial, the defense attorney, John Schoenhorn, sort of said, you don't have any concrete evidence tying her to the case.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

You don't have any sort of smoking gun, so to speak.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

And they also leaned pretty hard on the idea that Fotis Doulos was a manipulator.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

Fotis Doulos was someone that, you know, may have done it, but she was just sort of caught up in this love triangle.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

Yeah, it's a long document.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

The main arguments that she makes is that there was insufficient evidence as well as, you know, rulings on the police interviews.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

So the defense claims that those police interviews should have never been let in.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

Exactly.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

Because there was a lack of ability, according to her defense attorney during the trial, to really sort of defend how those interviews were used in court.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

Exactly.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

It was a last second decision that they would be let in.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

I mean, prosecutors really kind of dove right into those interviews and said, hey, let's take a look at these and highlight every single inconsistency.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

So really sort of a tough thing for the defense to capitalize on from the get-go.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

Right.

Dateline NBC
An accused killer pleads guilty, but not to murder. The next chapter in the Dulos case. Plus, a NXIVM story.

So it's in the hands of the appellate court.