Kevin Greenlee

So I get my interest in true crime partly from my mom. And this is one of those cases that I know she's followed over the years and would often talk about and show a lot of interest in. So my awareness about the smiley face killer's theory sort of comes from her and then looking into it myself. Personally, I am somewhat skeptical.

So I get my interest in true crime partly from my mom. And this is one of those cases that I know she's followed over the years and would often talk about and show a lot of interest in. So my awareness about the smiley face killer's theory sort of comes from her and then looking into it myself. Personally, I am somewhat skeptical.

I know from my own personal experience in my hometown's bakery, They would make these yellow smiley face cookies that I was obsessed with it as a kid. And I think that, you know, when we talked about smiley faces in my family, we were often referring to those cookies that I always wanted.

I know from my own personal experience in my hometown's bakery, They would make these yellow smiley face cookies that I was obsessed with it as a kid. And I think that, you know, when we talked about smiley faces in my family, we were often referring to those cookies that I always wanted.

And in addition to that, it's a pretty common motif in art, as you mentioned, with everyone from Banksy onward using smiley faces in their artwork as sort of an expression of happiness.

And in addition to that, it's a pretty common motif in art, as you mentioned, with everyone from Banksy onward using smiley faces in their artwork as sort of an expression of happiness.

It seems it could be confirmation bias. If you're looking for a smiley face, you can probably find one.

It seems it could be confirmation bias. If you're looking for a smiley face, you can probably find one.

So for me, when I'm looking at whether I think a death could be a homicide, a suicide, or some sort of accident, I like to look at the totality of all the circumstances and sort of figure out what does most of the evidence point to? So while the presence of GHB in a lot of these bodies definitely gave me pause,

So for me, when I'm looking at whether I think a death could be a homicide, a suicide, or some sort of accident, I like to look at the totality of all the circumstances and sort of figure out what does most of the evidence point to? So while the presence of GHB in a lot of these bodies definitely gave me pause,

The fact that it is known to naturally occur in bodies after people die also makes me think that that could very well just again point to an accident rather than some malfeasance on a killer's part.

The fact that it is known to naturally occur in bodies after people die also makes me think that that could very well just again point to an accident rather than some malfeasance on a killer's part.

In our experience covering different crime cases, we often see, especially in high-profile cases, families take a leadership role when it comes to advocating for someone who's disappeared or who has been murdered.

In our experience covering different crime cases, we often see, especially in high-profile cases, families take a leadership role when it comes to advocating for someone who's disappeared or who has been murdered.

And I personally just reflect when I see that about how incredible and strong it is for these folks to be doing that while also grappling with the fear and grief and anguish that comes with a tragedy like this.

And I personally just reflect when I see that about how incredible and strong it is for these folks to be doing that while also grappling with the fear and grief and anguish that comes with a tragedy like this.

I'm a big believer in going where the evidence points to, right? It's not about which theory sounds best, it's about what does the evidence fit best. And when I see things like Chris not appearing on video footage from the bridge and this high level of GHB in his body, I have a lot of questions. I think that sounds like it could be potentially a homicide.

I'm a big believer in going where the evidence points to, right? It's not about which theory sounds best, it's about what does the evidence fit best. And when I see things like Chris not appearing on video footage from the bridge and this high level of GHB in his body, I have a lot of questions. I think that sounds like it could be potentially a homicide.

And I would hope that investigators would very much work diligently to rule that out before dismissing it. So I tend to think, from what we know here, that Chris's death at the very least looks very suspicious.

And I would hope that investigators would very much work diligently to rule that out before dismissing it. So I tend to think, from what we know here, that Chris's death at the very least looks very suspicious.