Kevin Harlan

And it was a commercial pretty quick.

And I said, I don't think I've ever in my life just talking and just regular talking.

have ever used the word unflinchingly before.

So again, I read a lot, and so maybe it comes from that.

I will tell you this, and I'm not sure.

There are some people in my mind, Zach, that

I hear their voices.

When I was a kid, I used to try to emulate Facenda and Summerall and Jim Simpson and Scott and Don Crickey and Dick Stockton, like all these great voices.

And I've still got them in my head.

And I don't sound like any of them.

But one guy who I listened to a lot, I've not done NHL hockey, was Emmerich.

Oh, my God.

And Emmerich would use a lot of these words.

And I've watched him since the early...

2000s in various ways, maybe even before that.

But my dad was a journalism major at Marquette.

So he was a writer and he always valued word usage.

And he would always tell me, he said, you know, when you're doing radio, he said, the word choice you use can paint a whole picture.

One word can paint like a whole picture of what happened on that play.

So I always kind of took that to heart.