Kevin James

And there was a few guys from that era that I stayed friends with that we did a lot of road gigs together.

And we were tight.

And that was real fun.

Mostly Fitzsimmons.

Because Fitzsimmons, he was a good buddy.

And we did a lot of gigs together when we were starting out.

We'd drive to Rhode Island for free.

And just do open mics in Rhode Island.

Yeah, but that's the only way to do it.

You have to put in those hours and that time.

And if you're with someone else who's also doing it, it makes it way easier.

So yeah, it made it easier for sure to be friends with Fitzsimmons because we were both doing the same thing at the same time.

But there wasn't a group like we had in L.A.

And LA, that was a different thing.

That was a real brother and sisterhood.

It was like everybody was so tight.

And everybody was so supportive.

Because it coincided with the internet.

When the internet came along, then instead of everybody being competition with each other for a sitcom or a TV show, now everybody was on each other's podcasts.

So now it was only beneficial.