Kevin James

Oh, okay.

He gave up on that, by the way.

Oh, did he?

Yeah, he gave up on that because he realized you could be a black belt without putting your knees to the mat.

It's just Eddie has a very specific style, and it's super effective, and it's very dangerous.

He's one of the most dangerous guys ever off his back.

And so he developed this style based on flexibility and movement.

And I could always do that because I was very lucky that I did.

Because I did Taekwondo when I was really young, and I always stretched.

So I didn't have any problem adopting his techniques, but a lot of people did just because of the dexterity issues.

A heavyweight that can fight off his back is one of the most dangerous guys.

I can't.

I get it.

That was always Nogueira's, like, big thing.

Right.

Because Minotauro, back in the day when Minotauro was the pride champion, Noguera was a lethal black belt off his back.

So these guys are so used to wrestling guys and taking them down.

But you get taken down, you're in Noguera's guard.

Right.

You're in trouble.