Kevin Knuth

What was his name?

Donald Horning.

And the night before the first test in Trinity, Oppenheimer gave him a sidearm and had him babysit the bomb up in the tower during a thunderstorm.

What?

And I was surprised that they didn't put that in the movie Oppenheimer because it's an awesome story, but the movie is about Oppenheimer and not about the Manhattan Project.

But he was – yeah, so that was – and his wife was – but his wife was in the movie.

Lily Hornig was in the movie.

She was the woman who came from Harvard.

And some of the things she actually said, she told us this at dinner once we visited her in Rhode Island when she was still alive.

But she said when she got to –

Los Alamos and was being interviewed for a position, they asked her how fast she typed.

And she goes, they don't teach typing at Harvard.

And they used that line in the movie, which was great.

So I mentioned that because Donald Hording was the chief scientific advisor to President Johnson, who was president during the Kecksburg crash.

And I had actually found a document about

The Kecksburg UFO.

And Donald Hornig was listed as being present.

And I thought, oh, my God.

And I never got to meet him.

And I did ask his wife, Lily, about it, but she didn't know.