Kevin McCloud

Anyway, I think actually, technically speaking, for customs and immigration and tax purposes, these are considered trade samples, aren't they?

Yes.

So the value is obviously for government purposes negligible.

For commercial purposes, i.e.

you sending us some money, they're very valuable.

Yeah, I've got a surprise for you when you come.

Actually, I've got a couple of surprises for you for when you come.

I mean, they're not experiential, but they sort of are.

One's an object and the other one is a sort of another object, which is a little bit more commercial in its identity.

And I'm very excited about it, but only as a concept.

And by the time you get here, I'll have tangible physical proof of that concept.

And I'm still not sure.

You know when you have an idea and you think, that is just a genius idea.

Why didn't we do this before?

Then you get the prototype back and it's not genius at all.

It's a disaster.

It's just to keep you guessing on the flight over.

Yeah, it's analogue, that's for sure.

Yeah.

And that's a good thing in the world, isn't it, you know?