Kevin McCloud

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I'm fascinated by the idea that people have a natural suspicion of anything which isn't normal, familiar, rectangular in buildings, and yet some of the most fabulous buildings are unusual.

Yeah.

And it's like the curve here, the fact that it...

it sort of disappears from you.

You look along it and you can't see around it entirely.

There's a sense of anticipation with that that it brings.

Like in a colonnade but it's just gently moving away from you.

You're living in the letter C. Yeah.

Oh, that'd be so good, wouldn't it?

Oh, you mean like an iPad, in fact?

Yeah.

Yeah, that'd be great.

The key word there for me was trolley.

Yeah.

You know, the idea that the thing is immovable and therefore when people come around you just stick it in the cupboard.

Put it away.

Yeah, you put it away.