Kevin Roberts

Did the president implement Project 2025 in this first year plus of his second term?

Ones that are changing, that are moving, that are different than the last election.

Did the president implement Project 2025 in this first year plus of his second term?

It is a pleasure.

You know that all of us at Heritage think the world of you.

Thanks for what you do.

Lay of the land in sort of two big ways.

Number one is a lot, maybe most of those pain points, fissures, come from the conservative movement growing.

And so one thing that's a silver lining to what is some very frustrating and unseemly commentary, especially online,

is that it's because it's growing.

And therefore, and I'm gonna look at this as a historian, when any ideological movement grows, that the proverbial problem of a big tent becomes really difficult.

But the second thing that I would say to tell you something that you and your audience know well is that this is aggravated by social media.

Not everyone on social media, but the fact that we can fire off something without fully thinking about it then just inflames those tensions.

And so the upshot for me, for us at Heritage, because our ethos is not just to add and multiply to make the movement bigger, but to make it more cohesive is

is to try to appeal to those principles, those concepts that cohere almost everyone.

We might have some differences of opinion on how we get there.

For example, Heritage's family policy paper.

We happen to think it's really bright, right?

Otherwise, we wouldn't have published it.

There are some friends in the movement who don't love the idea, but we credit them for how they've gone about the discourse of that, right?