Kevin Roberts

as our co-founder, longtime president Ed Fulner would say famously, to add and multiply.

Let's focus on those things we agree on and those policy issues we disagree on.

Let's talk about this on the side while we help our guys and gals govern.

Yeah, a couple of excellent questions in there, and I'll deal with them in sort of chronological order for me in terms of lessons learned as a leader.

I learned this 25 years ago when I started at K-12 Catholic school, and I went directly from the classroom

having been a history professor, history teacher, debate coach to starting the school, which is a way of saying I didn't really know what I was doing, probably thought I knew more.

No doubt I thought I knew more than I actually did.

And I thought I could run it as, quote, unquote, my business.

I was the founder.

with a couple of friends from high school, one of them a Catholic priest.

And I realized, oh man, that doesn't work because it's just, it's not that easy.

And the businessmen and businesswomen we had on that school board told me that, thankfully, in a very friendly way.

And so I became a real devotee of Jim Collins from Good to Great.

But in particular, my single favorite book, I'm doing a really small gesture with my hands because that addendum from Good to Great for the social sectors,

is I think, well, for me, I will say- I skipped that part, but I remember it.

All of my for-profit business leader friends say, Kevin, I didn't read that part.

Because at that point I was thinking, look, I know that I'm called because of my faith to start this school.

I know that I've got, without any hubris, this is a gift from the Holy Spirit.

I've got some leadership skills, maybe even some business acumen.

I'll just go into business.