Kevin Roberts

some of these longstanding conservative principles and policies.

And in a lot of ways, while I think a lot of people outside of Heritage deserve credit for this too, Heritage has helped to lead the way in that adaptation to this environment we're in.

We still have work to do to adapt to it fully, but ultimately what we want to do

is get good votes on good legislation and good votes on bad legislation.

We're pretty good at both.

And obviously the environment we're in with technology is challenging but filled with opportunities.

Well, you tempted this historian, you know, so you're going to get two responses.

Thanks.

The two responses.

One is the historical response, which is to offer some legitimate hopefulness.

So as a historian, I would say that the conservative movement every generation or so is fractured.

And there are a lot of reasons for that.

One of them is conservatives aren't prone to what has become a pretty common impulse by the radical left toward democracy.

intellectual totalitarianism, where it really is group thing.

Conservatives reject that.

We're always much more comfortable in sort of our larger conservative family of having those family conversations.

But the second thing is to lean on Burke from the late 1700s.

He'd say that conservatives always struggle being in power.

We're a movement that is very good on ideas, very good on the academic side of it.

But when – and I think this has been proven.