Kevin Roberts

Man, I can't tell you how 100% accurate and astute that is.

In fact, Charlie and I would occasionally, two or three times a year, commiserate on that.

Not complaining.

We're grateful, truly, for all of those people, and not just because of the material resources that they would give our respective organizations, because every single one of those people is a patriot, right?

And we're grateful for them.

And so the way I manage it, I know that he did an exceptional job.

The way that I attempt to manage that is to have conversations with people.

I have an open-door policy at Heritage.

I am on the phone a lot with a lot of different people, policymakers.

donors, donor prospects, friends out in the movement.

But I will tell you that there are two things that are really key.

Actually, three, I would say.

The first is, and I try to lead with this, articulate a very clear vision about where we're going.

Because that means that in almost every gathering of the center right of conservatives, libertarians, people like free market, people who are social conservatives, almost every gathering, there's going to be 80 to 90% agreement on that aspirational vision.

And so at Heritage, what we're doing to that end is focusing on the American family, on the dignity of work, on free enterprise, on national security, on citizenship, what it means to be an American, including an American who immigrates and assimilates here into our culture, right?

And so that aspirational vision is key.

But the second thing is to be transparent.

And I think the new cycle that Heritage went through over the last few months, which we didn't just weather, but we flourished through, is because of that ethos we have of transparency.

But the third thing is we have to recognize that leaning on not just my particular faith, but I think almost anyone of faith would say this, we're called to do what we do, not just to win elections.

not just to have our favorite policy enacted.