Kevin Roberts

I genuinely want to listen.

You and I, going back to transparency, this guy and I, you and I have a difference of opinion on this issue.

You have a difference of opinion with Heritage.

We're not going to change our position because you have this difference of opinion, but I'm wondering if maybe you can remember that we agree 100% on all of these other issues that we work on.

And I'll tell you, up until this very moment that I tell this story, not only did he continue to be a donor and has expanded his giving,

But more importantly than that- Was he Christian or Jewish?

Christian.

Okay.

Although there are stories like that with Jewish friends, especially over the last few months.

But the second thing is we've become good friends.

And while we still have a difference of opinion on that issue, that's not a deal breaker for him or for us in Heritage.