Kevin Sands
Appearances
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
I was wild and crazy, and I've done a lot of wild and crazy shit, but I don't have the balls on me to go burn down houses, dude. This is Mark's son, Kevin Sands, from his first marriage. I think he felt bad about... Kevin has a different idea about what really drove his dad. Absolutely not.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
I'm like, no, no, no, dude. You guys are fucking tripping, dude. I don't know what you're talking about. But in my head, I thought something was up right then.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
He ran the law. He was in and out a lot of hours. He was just like really weird, you know what I mean? On the surface, he could be charming. My dad was very approachable, very friendly with people. I think that's probably why he got away with it for so long.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
I would call it more Good Samaritan type stuff rather than environmentalism.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
whole bible quilting was kind of a shocker too according to kevin mark was actually not particularly religious before prison despite all that thou shalt not desecrate god's creation stuff they went to church they would do some bible study stuff but he would drink a beer he would run with their shirt off they probably tend to be more liberal in a lot of ways
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
I lived with him at different times. We definitely had a rollercoaster relationship, for sure. I mean, he left my mom when I was five.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
The very first house cut right into his running trail. And I think that's what planted the seed, the encroachment on his trail. His trail.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
I remember my dad telling me, that dumbass left at 6.01, that house got burned down at 6.03. It was almost like a personal challenge. The second fire was just petty. Mark refused to let Lee win.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
He saved everything like a fucking scrapbook. Every article, every single thing, he would cut it out of the newspaper and he saved it. He definitely got addicted to the attention.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
He said, look, son, I was trying to bring awareness, but people were more upset about the fire than the loss of Preserve.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
He was having a hard time finding a job. He was striking out a lot of interviews. That generation of people, the man's supposed to be the leader of the house, whatever, but my stepmom was the breadwinner.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
He was a bomber escort pre-Normandy. He got shot down, and he spent his time in prisoner of war camp
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
She suffered from postpartum depression. Back then, if you had postpartum depression, they locked you up.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
When he got out of prison, all he cared about was helping the homeless. Anything that he got, he would just go donate. And that's what I want him to be remembered by.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
I was the only one by his side when he died. He was unconscious. I read him the Bible. I just talked to him about like things I was doing in school and my internship and my stepson's football games. I told him about how we were up in the mountains fishing and took some video of it. I looked up, he opened his eyes. I showed him the video. He took his last breath.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
And it was like a lifetime of resentment and disappointment. This pretty much ended right there.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
I thought, you know, they're smarter than me. They're going to be investigating it.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
Yeah, I do. I do now.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
It's always been the three of us.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
Very creative, very kind. She thinks a lot with a great sense of humor.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
She was graduating from high school that June.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
He came to the door, talked to her a bit.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
Mark was the welcome basket person in the neighborhood.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
He would deliver a plant, maybe a card, from the association when you moved into the neighborhood.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
I think she did play with him once, but she said, I didn't feel comfortable around him. She said, I got a really creepy feeling from him. And then he wanted her to go running with him.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
I just had an impression of him as a weird kind of guy, mainly because, you know, what 40-something-year-old man pursues my daughter to play tennis?
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
I had been told that he had been caught in backyards.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
If I went out in the early morning to put my trash bin out, there was Mark. Or at night, he was out, odd times. And so I just see him, you know?
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
It was on the tip of my tongue because I just suspected Mark Sands.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
I thought, you know, they're smarter than me. They're going to be investigating it.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
Yeah, I do. I do now. And I probably regret it more after I found out that he was photographing my daughter.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
She came up to me one day and she said, they're looking for a house that Mark Sands was videotaping.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
And she said, you look just like the girl in the picture. Because my daughter and I looked very much alike.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
He showed me the picture taken of my daughter in her bedroom.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
He's outside in my yard taking pictures of my daughter undressing in her bedroom.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
sitting in those chaise lounge chairs, kind of how you sit with your knees up or something, obviously trying to zero in on the crotch as they're sitting in the chair. I just felt horrified, sick to my stomach. There's a variety of ways of being violated. It doesn't have to be physical. For her, that was a huge violation. I had to get blinds because she just
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
was so unnerved about being in a house with lights.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
When she speaks, it comes out in a flood. When I sit on the phone, they're doing a podcast. She goes, I want to talk to them.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
It affected her more than the fires, the fact that somebody was photographing you outside your window, especially when you're 18.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
I was glad at the time we didn't want the publicity for that.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
She was really upset because it just sounded like he did nothing. He was going to live a lovely life hereafter, irrespective of what he had done to her. I just think of him as an ugly, despicable piece of human being.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
Have you spoken to Mark Sands?
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
Oh, I didn't know that.
The Binge Crimes: Finding Mom's Killer
The Arsonist Next Door | 6: Behind the Facade
I just think of him as an ugly, despicable human being.