Kevin Van Valkenburg

I don't know.

He's a good interview.

He's someone who's really willing to give you good quotes and that maybe that doesn't matter if you're just a fan of the game or whatever, but it's someone in my position who's trying to find interesting things about players.

I love talking to Fitzy.

I love listening to him give interviews.

Well, it's just speaks to like, we'll, we'll pinch and pod eater become like as good as Matt Fitzpatrick.

Like right now I would say very unlikely.

Right.

And that, because after Patrick was a, was a get the ball on the whole guy and that's impossible to teach.

Andy, go ahead.

Sorry to interrupt you.

i just throw out an example too andy this i read a lot about this when i was doing the scheffler piece but you know scott scott scheffler and brad dulkey were like kind of like rivals when they were growing up in junior golf and kids like dulkey was the person that everybody thought was going to be the dude and this is the person now you see like he's he can hit the ball 190s ball speed or whatever but he could not make it on tour even he has admitted like i never thought that scotty was going to turn into this

But Scottie was just always really good at figuring out a way to get the ball around the course and get it in the hole.

And when they were coming up, everyone was like, oh, dog is going to be the star.

He's hitting it way past Scottie.

It just didn't work out that way.

I wonder how much the iron play is just lost in this like experiment of like, Oh, I want to have these bulge face irons.

I want to have, you know, his retail printing.

Yeah.

When I partner with LA Golf, they're going to make the shafts that are perfect for me.