Kevin Woodley

And I know people in other organizations and right up to management level, people that have worked their way.

That was what happens when you're around for, you know, next year will be 27 years.

You get to know guys who are players.

and then move up into management.

Also, because I tend to go out there with a video camera and film practices and the goalie practices of the opposing teams, I quite often get to meet the general manager because nobody does that at that level, and they're like, what the hell are you doing?

There's been a couple times where they think I'm spying on their goalies for the Canucks.

I'm like, no, no, no, no.

But

Just the way that he conducts himself, the way he runs his business down there, I heard a lot of good things from a lot of different people.

Unprompted, right?

Like before this was a consideration.

So, yeah, I'm really buoyed.

A lot of – and I've gone on a few, especially over the past three, four months.

I got a lot of the rants and disappointment and where this franchise –

has landed, yes, it bubbles to the surface when you're dead last in the league and things are just spiraling.

But the frustrations aren't necessarily just with the on-ice stuff.

It's, as you said, with the off-ice stuff.

It's with the evaporation of community involvement.

And listen...

Every one of those things has been with the caveat that there are a lot of great people working there trying to do good things.