Kevin Woodley

Does that make sense?

They've been more lead by example guys.

So I want to see more.

I just gave you a five minute answer without knowing, but I want to see what this looks like before you can really judge it.

But I think it is fair to have questions just about the way this whole process has sort of unfolded and hope.

again, hope that there's more of a plan in place given all the moves made already, then let's see what they say.

As much as, again, much like Rutherford, they deserve...

you know, as much time as they need to make this decision because of who they are and because of what they've done and because of how thoughtful they are, not just as professionals, but as people.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Like, again, like, I just... The fact we haven't heard any rumblings until now out of the insiders is a little curious, but genuinely, I don't know, Jason.

And I think this organization...

Despite ending up in the news a lot, it's usually planned when we see some of the leaks.

There's usually a purpose to it, and you can usually do the math on who has a leak and where it came from, to be honest with you, at the national level, and try and sort of figure out what the intent was.

I have not heard a sniff of this.

And they have been better at that.

Like I said, I think there's been moves already made around upper management that we haven't heard about.

And I can't report on them because I haven't been able to confirm them.

But I think there's a lot changing here.

But no, I have not heard any of that to this point.