Kevin

Both in my career as a public policy leader and also as an American history professor, I've never encountered a more egregious misunderstanding about any important part of the United States than the separation of church and state.

In fact, the whole reason for that, the long jurisprudence on this until the 20th century, the long custom, was that separation of church and state meant that you kept the state out of running the church's business.

In fact, the whole reason for that, the long jurisprudence on this until the 20th century, the long custom, was that separation of church and state meant that you kept the state out of running the church's business.

And what's happened, as we have seen the political ascendance of the radical left, which, of course, aims at undermining religious institutions, is the complete 180 degree turn toward a misunderstanding in which we're saying there can't be any religion even expressed publicly. We're not even talking about in laws or in policymaking.

And what's happened, as we have seen the political ascendance of the radical left, which, of course, aims at undermining religious institutions, is the complete 180 degree turn toward a misunderstanding in which we're saying there can't be any religion even expressed publicly. We're not even talking about in laws or in policymaking.

But I, as the president of Heritage, according to this misthinking, shouldn't even talk about religion publicly. in public.

But I, as the president of Heritage, according to this misthinking, shouldn't even talk about religion publicly. in public.

That's the logical consequence of this terrible misunderstanding, and so to your question, I think ultimately what's happening because of the presence of still strong religious institutions and religious leaders of all backgrounds, Christian, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, and others, is a revitalization of this.

That's the logical consequence of this terrible misunderstanding, and so to your question, I think ultimately what's happening because of the presence of still strong religious institutions and religious leaders of all backgrounds, Christian, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, and others, is a revitalization of this.

In other words, it's getting back to a proper understanding that if you don't have healthy religion in this country, government, And politics will become your religion. And we've lived through, over the last generation, the bad fruit that that reaps.

In other words, it's getting back to a proper understanding that if you don't have healthy religion in this country, government, And politics will become your religion. And we've lived through, over the last generation, the bad fruit that that reaps.

Yeah, the bad news, and it is bad news, but thankfully now good news story. The bad news is that under the Biden administration, the FACE Act was used to run roughshod over the right of pro-lifers to just be present peacefully at a safe distance outside abortion clinics. We're not talking about a protest.

Yeah, the bad news, and it is bad news, but thankfully now good news story. The bad news is that under the Biden administration, the FACE Act was used to run roughshod over the right of pro-lifers to just be present peacefully at a safe distance outside abortion clinics. We're not talking about a protest.

We're talking about, for example, my friend Mark Houck of Pennsylvania standing outside peacefully in an abortion clinic, not obstructing the people wanting to go in. I mean, that was their legal right we made. disagree with, but that's their legal right, certainly, to go in and out. And the local law enforcement and then the FBI using the FACE Act to arrest Mark.

We're talking about, for example, my friend Mark Houck of Pennsylvania standing outside peacefully in an abortion clinic, not obstructing the people wanting to go in. I mean, that was their legal right we made. disagree with, but that's their legal right, certainly, to go in and out. And the local law enforcement and then the FBI using the FACE Act to arrest Mark.

And ultimately, for someone not familiar with that story, the short version of the story is that all the charges were dropped. I mean, this was just totally baseless. It is one of the most egregious examples of the Biden Department of Justice clearly identifying pro-lifers using the FACE Act.

And ultimately, for someone not familiar with that story, the short version of the story is that all the charges were dropped. I mean, this was just totally baseless. It is one of the most egregious examples of the Biden Department of Justice clearly identifying pro-lifers using the FACE Act.

Our legal experts at Heritage, including Roger Severino, who's the expert on the FACE Act, said there's, in modern history, never been a greater violation of religious freedom there.

Our legal experts at Heritage, including Roger Severino, who's the expert on the FACE Act, said there's, in modern history, never been a greater violation of religious freedom there.

But the good news is not just because Donald Trump is president of the United States and is not using the FACE Act for those purposes, but more importantly, Americans have the ideology of common sense that whatever you think about abortion, you shouldn't be using that particular piece of legislation for that purpose. There is a right to free speech, including outside abortion clinics.