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Keyu Jin

👤 Speaker
1055 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

But I guess what we're really getting at is it is a country that is moving from...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

no rule of law or very little rule of law, very immature markets to something that is being gradually established, bankruptcy laws, corruption laws, rules and regulations on what's possible.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

One interesting point is that in China, you ask the companies to innovate first and then you regulate after.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

So that has led to things like P2P platforms, you know, it's led to lots of kind of financial innovations, some of which has actually been very helpful and good, some of which had been disastrous.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

But the intention to regulate after the fact is to really not slow down or hinder the innovation.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

This is a very different approach from Europe.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

You regulate first, and then, you know, companies have to work around that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

So the

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

This is why Chinese economy is so complex.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

You cannot reduce it to simply a statement saying the state is unhelpful for the private or something like that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

There are certain sectors where this SOEs dominate, right, when it comes to national security in terms of energy.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

But let's not focus on these few sectors.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

By and large, most of the economy, if you actually admit to the fact that China is highly innovative and highly entrepreneurial, means that it must be the private sector that is driving the show.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

In the West, they group these economies together as if they're the same thing.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

No, it's not the same at all.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

There's so many differences, so much more flexibility.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

You can have dynamic entrepreneurialism at the same time have socialist characteristics.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

And I think this is what China has been able to shape and mold, a unique model that balances between government industry and

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

between state coordination and market mechanisms and between individualism and communalism.