Khalil Rountree Jr.

I'd rather be like I guess behind – like on the other side of the camera.

I don't know.

Something within the – dude, that – like the UFC is such a large company.

There are so many departments.

Yeah.

I try to make friends with everybody in every department because they're just great people that make this all happen.

The equipment team, Ember, Stephanie.

I've been testing the gloves for the UFC for the past year, making sure we get the right ones.

Yeah, and so I was a part of that entire process.

What happened?

What was wrong with those gloves?

The main thing was that because of the leather, the logos weren't sticking.

So the logos were peeling off, peeling off, peeling off.

That's it?

And we tried... Joe, I'm telling you, we tried...

hundreds of different ways to get the ufc logo printed on the gloves so that they will not come off in the octagon from me testing it on the canvas doing live situations sparring rubbing into the cage blah blah and i don't get it just why does the old leather work better

Because with everything in the world, but especially in the industry of leather and suede and all this stuff, if I had a pair of leather shoes from 1970, it's going to be different than the leather that's made today.

You get what I mean?

It's a different type of leather.

So it's a softer leather?