Kieran Cuddihy

No, okay.

Too scarred by it?

Rose, how much hope do you have?

Yeah.

Well, listen, we appreciate, like I say to everyone today, so much, both of you, sharing a bit of your story with us and for your time as well, Rose and Irina.

Thanks a million.

We'll take a very short break.

Stay with us.

We're coming to you from Hoobin House.

Yes, the reality of life for a 14-year-old here in Huben House.

It's Ireland's largest family homeless hub by the Salvation Army.

And there maybe was a point a few years ago where that figure, when it gets released at the end of every month, became...

a statistic and not much more for people over 17 000 homeless but of course there's people behind them all and and that 14 year old just one of the 17 000 plus and and two more with me here in the the library on the second floor of hooban house kirsty and lavinia kirsty um tell me a little bit about your family how many of you are living here

Yeah.

I mean, you could be living in a five-bed house and that would be a challenge.

What's the getting them up then and getting to school routine like with five kids?

Stop.

Yeah.

11 different buses?

There's a world that exists that kind of exists under the radar, I think, for so many people who are listening to this.