Kieran Kunhya

I don't have a point of contact at Microsoft, right?

Well, I'm sure any other software, Adobe, Spotify has a point of contact.

I don't have that, right?

So raising awareness works.

It's sometimes very spicy, a lot of drama.

X and Twitter are okay for that, but it's efficient.

And for example, like Team Sweeney, Carmack, and a few others, like very high level people have raised also the awareness on our X accounts, and that helped a lot also.

In VLC, one of the oldest contributors is called Felix.

He's the one doing everything on Mac and iOS.

He's starting working on VLC.

He was 16.

We had a guy called Edward Wong, who used to be a Google Summer of Code student who stayed...

for three years around video LAN, he was 14, right?

And part of Google Summer of Code and Google Code-In, which were programs where basically we have students or high school, we wrote a ton of assembly for x264 and for VLC and for FFmpeg, right?

So everyone can contribute.

And to be honest, right, like even at Google, Google is

one entity, but so many different people, right?

And there is a ton of Google engineers we work with all the time.

And even like Google from YouTube to Chrome to Chrome Media to the rest of Google, those are very different type of entities.

But what we do is...