Kieran Kunhya

Yeah, so to me, it's like the fork was heated drama, but

Most of the development from LibAV was merged back into FFmpeg, right?

So the fact that FFmpeg got a superset around LibAV and so that gave the user, because in the end we work for the users, a larger set of features and a ton of things that were discussed, for example, the debate on reviews and on how we push, are something that now is completely settled in FFmpeg and is following mostly what

Everyone in the community agrees, right?

So de facto, everyone who was active on DBAV came back to work on FFmpeg because the disagreements were fixed.

And in the end, FFmpeg is stronger than it was before, right?

And I know people love drama, but...

Yeah, but it's not just about folks, right?

So it's very what you what you are referring to is a one of the most challenging and most interesting part of open source today is maintainers,

burnout right and ai is a problem because of that and daniel steinberg which is the maintainer of curl who's probably one of the best promoter of open source in the world he's by the way a member of the european open source academy with me so i'm very like humble to be on the same community that's him right he's against what he called ai slop right because it gives a ton of um fake

reports or bad reports, bad patches.

And then a lot of maintainers have a lot of burden to maintain the software.

And this is straining the mind of open source developers much more than folks.

And for example, the XZ fiasco was because there was one guy maintaining it and he got basically

hammered by two attackants who were asking him questions nonstop at weird times at night to block him.

And at some point he got fed up and says, okay, I can't do that and gave the commit access to the attackant.

So burnout in open source community is something that exists, but mostly it's about maintaining things, right?

So, for example, now I am maintaining a ton of multimedia and non-multimedia library as maintainer because the maintainers got fed up, right?

Some on Videoland, some outside of Videoland, because sometimes you need a tough skin, right?

Because you get, like, it's not really attacks, but, oh, this is not working, this is not working.