Kieran Read

I had eight years in the shadow.

Yeah.

You know, training with him all the time.

So, no, literally, we did all the extras together.

Yeah.

Every gym session, Crusaders, All Blacks.

Yeah, it was special to be able to witness, you know, what he could, the drive that he had.

And even just then, and then what he put out on the field.

So, it was pretty cool to be able to

um after a few years i feel like okay you know i'm not the goat but i'm an equal on some some respects and i can um and we can have impacts in certain ways so uh and different things sorry and um yeah he's he's a guy who's yeah very special player

And that was it.

He was like, I'm not going to let anything else affect me.

I'm not going to bring anything else into my life except for rugby.

It's going to get me to where I need to be.

So, yeah, definitely worked for him.

Yeah, conversation was pretty to the point, me and him.

But yes, no, he got on quite well.

Although, to be honest, when we were training together, normally he was slightly in front of me and I was chasing him when we were doing our sessions, mate.

But yeah, no, it was a lot of fun, man.

Pretty cool to be able to...