Kim Hjelmgaard

These are the folks that guard the Pentagon, look after its infrastructure.

They're sort of vetting who's coming in and out of the building each day.

When we approached them for comment around some of the activity that has been alleged to take place outside the Pentagon with overseas operatives just kind of

hanging around the perimeter or hanging around the entrance to try to get low-level information.

They didn't give us much of a reply.

However, I'm told from a couple of different sources that they are aware of that activity and they've got steps in place to counter it.

So probably like good at this point to step back a bit.

All countries have spies.

All countries seek to gain the upper hand through intelligence collection.

In the kind of current geopolitical space, the United States is most worried about China and Russia.

They appear to be the most consistent culprits.

They, of course, deny this.

North Korea and Iran are two other countries that also try to steal American secrets.

I mean, as I kind of mentioned earlier, you know, honey traps, they represent a fairly small number of cases.

There aren't official tallies.

And a lot of the world's kind of STEM research, you know, scientific technological advances do take place in the United States.

So it kind of stands to reason that a country like China, which is battling the U.S.

for kind of like superpower, you know, supremacy, China, which has...

about three times the volume of intelligence agencies in the United States.

It stands to reason that they would kind of operate widely in the U.S.