Kim Kaupe

right-hand person who works for their marketing team, not in the same city.

You know, it's kind of just a different, a different feel.

I love that.

That sounds amazing.

I almost see what could be really cool and something that I know a lot of my entrepreneur friends look at and use is kind of like a forecasting or like a planner.

Some really cool spiral bound thing that's saying, what are your goals in Q1, Q2, Q3?

Where do you want to be?

And that can really fluctuate.

If you're a SaaS product, you're going to be filling it in very differently than someone saying, hey, my goal is that by June of 2016, I'm not in this corporate job anymore.

Or that by August of 2016,

I have launched my personal website or secured my GoDaddy domain for, you know, firstnamelastname.com.

You know, I think sometimes creating that structure, I think people and your listeners probably have amazing ideas and ideas of how, you know, they want to get to these goals or even the ultimate goals.

But kind of organizing how to get there can be monstrous.

And breaking that down into whether it's by months or by quarters or by specific goals, I think can make a really lofty task of, oh my God, I'm going to quit my corporate job and all of a sudden start a top podcast, be a little less scary if you're looking at it in kind of small steps as opposed to one giant leap.

I love that.

I think that could be really cool because I think people will probably want you to sit down with them and maybe even answer some specific questions.

Like, okay, after looking at this stuff, Nathan, I really have a question about X. How do I emulate that?

I think that could be really interesting.

They can find me on Twitter, just at kimcalp.com.

They can go to zinepack.com.