Kimberly Adams

So many threads to unpack there.

And I want to lock in on what you just said about within a few weeks, because each of those different things that you just mentioned kind of has a different timeline for how it shows up in the global food supply chain.

So energy costs.

Walk us through that timeline and how that shows up in food costs, and then we'll get to the fertilizer question.

Right.

I remember people saying bread is life in some of their chants in Tatar Square.

When it comes to the fertilizer side of it, I think for a lot of folks who aren't familiar with the agriculture industry, they might have been surprised to find that so much fertilizer was coming from these oil-producing regions.

Can you talk about that connection?

You mentioned that North Africa and parts of sub-Saharan Africa are very dependent on fertilizer and energy from these regions.

What other parts of the world are really going to feel this impact first?

And are we seeing any kind of global reaction thus far to this aspect of the war, the way that it's likely or it is already impacting food supplies?

All right.

We are going to take a quick break.

But when we get back, we're going to have more with Michael Wurz of the Council on Foreign Relations.

All right.

We're back with Michael Wurz of the Council on Foreign Relations talking about the food security effects of the ongoing war with Iran.

And I want to follow up on a point you were just making.

Are there other options for these countries that are feeling this hit the most to get their fertilizer or their energy for food production right now?

Have you seen any good models or examples of this kind of regional coordination that you're discussing that builds resiliency against these kind of food and fertilizer supply shocks?

I imagine folks are going to hear this and understand that there are long-term solutions, but what is the average person hearing this supposed to do with this information right now?