Kimberly Adams

What do you think we've learned from Ukraine and even in the first few days of this war about the lethality of this kind of technology compared to more traditional warfare?

I think that's such an important point, this idea that when there are not the sort of high casualty numbers with the acknowledgement that there have been several U.S.

service members killed already in this conflict, but when we don't see the kind of high casualty numbers.

That we would if there were boots on the ground.

But you're seeing, you know, what is being deemed military success because of these drones.

How does that change the way that people and people in this context being Americans in particular perceive warfare and our international engagements?

We need to take a quick break, but we are going to have much more on this when we come back.

All right.

We are back with Professor Sarah Kreps.

I know it's pretty early in this shift, but is there a sense about whether drone warfare reduces or increases civilian casualties in warfare?

You know, since you mentioned sort of intelligence gathering and reconnaissance, this brings into the conversation of drone warfare, artificial intelligence.

And, you know, we just had this big conflict here in the United States between Anthropic and the Pentagon over how the Pentagon would be able to use its technology and OpenAI stepped in where Anthropic stepped back.

How are advancements in AI shifting the landscape when it comes to drone warfare?

How do you think the widespread use of drones is right now and in the future going to impact how fast conflicts escalate and how fast they spread to other places?

Well, thank you so much.

I really appreciate your time today.

Dr. Sarah Kreps is director of the Tech Policy Institute at the Cornell Brooks School of Public Policy and author of the book, Drones, What Everyone Needs to Know.

Thank you for making us smart about this topic.

Thank you for having me.

All right.